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Величествениот век (Мuhteşem Yüzyıl) [Канал 5]

Дискусија во 'Серии и емисии' започната од t.w.e.e.t.y, 15 декември 2011.

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    Who's Косем султана што ме збунувате сега ? :^) :^) :) ;)
     
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    види вака....Косем Султан е друга султана,не е поврзана со нашиот Суљо...друга моќна султанка,побарај поназад во темата имавме спомнато податоци и за неа ;)
     
    На bubac му/ѝ се допаѓа ова.
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    :rofl: MMmmmmmmm звучи интересно
    Можи некое линкче со серијата да ми пратиш да си почнам да си ја гледам и неа ? :emo:
     
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    кога ќе излези серијата,сеуште не е снимена ;)

    во меѓувреме на Канал 5
    Хурем каде си бе?Врати се оти онаа старата ќе ми дојде овде ќе му го запусти живото :D
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    излезе 117 женски, ја чекам со нетрпение, јака ке биди?
     
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    Кажувајте што ќе биде во понеделник, што ќе се случи со Хурем? Дали Хатиџе нешто направила? Ќе цркнам до понеделник
     
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    Косем Султан била една од најмоќните турски султанки. Била сопруга на султанот Ахмед I и мајка и Валиде Султан на Мурат IV и Ибрахим I. Два пати владеела самостојно од 1623 до 1632 година и од 1648 до 1651 година. Најголем непријателка и била мајката на внукот Мехмед IV (дете од Ибрахим I) Турхан Хатиџе Султан. Турхан Хатиџе Султан наредила Косем Султан да биде задавена со јаже од страна на дворската стража на 13 септември 1651 година.
    Еве ти линкови, ако нешто повеќе те интересира за Косем Султан и Турхан Хатиџе Султан.
     
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    До која турска епизода се стасани Канал 5?
     
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    Во Понеделник Сулејман дознава дека Хатиџе е таа која ја киднапирала Хурем. Кога Хатиџе дознава дека Сулејман ја открил вистината одлучува да се самоубие така што ќе испие отров. Хатиџе умира во рацете на Сулејман и Сулејман нема да дознае каде е Хурем. Сите ќе мислат дека Хурем е мртва но таа е жива. Во следните епизоди ќе се дознае каде е Хурем и тогаш ќе се случи промената на актерката т.е. на местото на првата Хурем - Мерием Узерли ќе пристигне новата Хурем - Вахиде Перчин. Овие настани со киднапирањето на Хурем не беа планирани но бидејќи Мерием ја напушти серијата сценаристот мораше комплетно да го смени сценариото.

    102 епизода
     
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    Ако човек има слободно време и побара по интернетов, ќе најде толку интересни работи и текстови за Отоманската империја. Еве најдов нешто повеќе, па решив да го споделам со вас:
    Haseki Hürrem Sultan:
    Hürrem Haseki Sultan (1500-1558.)
    Born in Poland, of Ukrainian descent, and buried in Istanbul… Hürrem was one of the most powerful women in the Ottoman empire. She played a very important role in politics and state affairs.
    She was a prominent figure in the “Sultanate of Women,” a 130 year period when women of the Imperial Harem of the Ottoman Empire had extraordinary influence on the Sultans.
    What I find the most interesting, aside from the fact that she was known for being extremely charitable and happy (she even established a public soup kitchen to the feed the poor in Jerusalem) are all her names:
    Hürem Haseki Sultan, Roxelana, Alexandra Lisowaska, Roksolana, Rossa, Ruzica, Khurram, and Roxolany. I think some of these are nicknames and translation changes- but I need to do more research to sort it out.
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    Две видеа со портрети од неа:
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xV3nkkXS_U
    Ова го најдов под едно видеа, некој коментирал:
    Her place is heaven. She did not do anything awful. I am history student and i did big project on her. There are so many lies and myths about her, but they are not true. She did many great things for charity,she built schools, hospitals, mosques,homes for elderly people and for bag people, e.t.c. and in many cities, not just Istanbul. And she was extremely intelligent, knew 8 languages, she advised on political matters, she insisted on peace with Poland. She created her own charity fund. Everything else is a lie. Her husband was a tyrant, he slaughtered thousands in his bloody military campains, and he killed for treason without mercy. And there were many cruel people iin harem, but yeah, Hurrem is the evil one. And you know why the West hates so much? Because she is ukranian, that's why.
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    Roxolana from Roksolania, the beloved wife of a mighty Turkish sultan
    “I gave my orders —
    make a dress for my beloved.
    Use the sun to make the top,
    Use the moon to make the lining
    Use the while clouds
    for the trimmings,
    Use the blue of the sea
    to make the threads.
    Use the stars for buttons,
    And make the fastenings
    out of me.”

    From one of Suleyman’s
    letters to Roxolana

    From the long history of Ukraine the names of only a few women have been firmly secured in the nation’s memory: the Grand Duchess Olga, a distinguished tenth-century ruler of Kyiv; Anna, the daughter of the Grand Duke Yaroslav the Wise who in the eleventh century was married to the King of France Henry I, and similarly to Olga, ruled the country as a regent after her husband’s death; Roxolana, a Ukrainian girl who was captured, sold into slavery and who became an official wife of arguably the greatest of all Ottoman sultans. There are several other, mostly religious mystics of the nineteenth century, but their names are less known.
    Some historians express their doubts whether Roxolana was Ukrainian; journalists and novelists write articles and stories about her; swashbuckling TV serials are made which present her either as a heroine or a woman in a seraglio, but for the rank-and-file people she remains a much beloved figure of Ukrainian folklore. Roxolana continues to enjoy a massive popularity — a Cinderella story, real and not invented, is doomed to be popular.

    The only son
    Suleyman was the only son of Sultan Selim I. Under Selim, the Ottoman Empire grew twice in size, and there was no conceivable reason why it should stop growing under Selim’s son. It would be futile to hope, wrote the sixteenth-century Italian Paolo Giovio, that “the dauntless lion would leave his throne to mansuetto angelo, a timid lamb.” No, Suleyman was not a lamb. When he succeeded his father as sultan in September 1520, Suleyman was twenty-six years old. Suleyman assumed the throne with a position unequaled by any sultan before or after — he established the classical Ottoman state and society and made important new conquests in the East and West. His reign marked the peak of Ottoman grandeur and has always been regarded as the golden age of Ottoman history.
    The sultan was said to be of a benevolent disposition, a clever, educated person, a noble and wise ruler. One of the European historians of the Ottoman rulers, writing a couple of centuries later, said of Selim and Suleyman: “Patris fortis filius fortior,” or “A courageous father of an even more courageous son.”
    In the sixteenth century, a Venetian chronicler, Marino Sanuto, compiled a many-volumed historical chronicles; in Tome XXXV, we find a report of a Venetian ambassador which says: “His not being prone, in contrast to his father and many other sultans, to pederasty made his majestic dignity and nobility of character shine even brighter.”
    Another Venetian ambassador, Navagero, wrote in 1533, “There has never been a woman in the Ottoman palace who had more power than she” — referring to his wife, Roxolana.

    The Magnificent sultan
    In the European historical tradition, Suleyman is known as The Magnificent. He earned this soubriquet for his military exploits and political success. The Turks often referred to him not only as Muhtesem, The Magnificent, but as Suleyman Kanuni, The Lawgiver, emphasizing his contributions to the legal system and to culture in general. The contemporaries compared him to the Biblical king Solomon because of “his wisdom and splendour of his court.”
    Suleyman’s father expanded the territory of his empire mostly by conquests in Asia and in Egypt. By contrast, Suleyman began his reign with campaigns against the Christian powers in central Europe and the Mediterranean. Belgrade fell to him in 1521, opening the way for a large-scale advance north of the Danube. The Island of Rhodes, long under the rule of the Knights of St. John, was conquered in 1522. At Mohacs, in August 1526, Suleyman defeated the combined Hungarian-Croatian-Czech forces and broke the military strength of Hungary. The Hungarian king, Louis II lost his life in the battle (he was said to have drowned in a bog). One of the contemporary Turkish historians wrote that “there has never been a battle like this since ancient times.” After the victory, the Turks piled 2,000 heads of their enemies (among the heads were eight that belonged to bishops) in a heap close to the sultan’s tent as a horrible tribute to the victor. Suleyman drove the Habsburgs from all of Hungary and besieged Vienna in 1529, an effort that failed because of the difficulty of supplying a large force so far from the major centres of Ottoman power. Vienna thus stood as the principal European bulwark against further Muslim advance. Under the existing conditions of supply, transport, and military organization, the Ottomans had reached the limit of their possible expansion in the West.
    Suleyman’s campaigns brought Iraq, North Africa with Algiers and Tunis, Arabia with Yemen and holy Mecca and Medina under Ottoman domination. Western Azerbaijan was the practical limit of Ottoman expansion in the East and the Atlantic Ocean in the West. The Ottomans also emerged as a major naval power.

    The Slavic influence
    One of the unexpected results of the Ottoman expansion was an active penetration of Slavic ethnics into the Ottoman armed forces (Janissaries) and even into the ruling elite. Serbians were particularly numerous and the Serbian language could be heard in the Ottoman court; it was used in official documents alongside with Turkish. The Italian historian Paolo Giovio who compiled a book on Turkish history, wrote: “At the court [of Suleyman The Magnificent] several languages are spoken. Turkish is the language of the ruler; Arabic is the language of the Muslim Law, Koran; Slavic (sclavonica) is mostly used by the Janissaries, and Greek is the language of the populace of the capital and other cities of Greece.”
    The Polish traveller Strijkowskij wrote that in 1574, when he was in Istanbul, he heard with his own ears kobzari (bards) singing songs in Serbian in the streets and in the taverns about victories of valiant Muslims over the Christians.
    Bassano, an Italian visitor to Suleyman’s court, claimed that “he [the sultan] respected and highly valued his wife [Roxolana] and understood her native language to some extent.” One of the sultan’s viziers was Rustem-pasha, a Serb or a Croat.
    Ukraine, except for some areas and not for long, was never conquered by the Ottomans but it became a steady source of supplies of white slaves to the empire. The Crimean Tartars were the main suppliers. Mykhailo Lytvyn, a Ukrainian diplomat in the service of the Lithuanian government, wrote in his memoirs dating to 1548–1551 that the krymchaky (Crimean Tartars) engaged only in two trades — cattle-breeding and capturing Ukrainians to be sold to the Ottomans as slaves. “The ships that often come to their ports from across the sea, bring weapons, clothes and horses which are exchanged for slaves who are loaded into these ships. And all the Ottoman bazaars are full of these slaves who are sold and bought to be used in the households, to be resold, to be given as presents… There was one Jew, amazed at the great numbers of these slaves to be seen at the slave markets, who asked whether there were any people left in the land where these slaves are brought from.”

    Girls for the harem
    Among all the Ukrainian captives sold at the Ottoman slave markets, the destiny of beautiful girls was probably the least harsh. Most of them were chosen for harems. Girls for the sultan’s harem were handpicked from among the girls captured during military raids and those offered at the slave markets. Before a girl, picked for the sultan’s harem, could be presented to the sultan for assessment, she had to undergo a thorough and comprehensive training. Even then she could never be sure she would be actually allowed to parade before the sultan. Only a few out of each hundred girls was privileged to be given the status of a concubine or a wife in the harem. But once in, she faced a formidable challenge of moving up the harem hierarchy, and her success in getting closer to the top depended not so much on her looks but on her natural gifts, strength of character, stamina — and sheer luck. Under the supervision of the kagia-kadin, the top female attendant in charge of the harem, the women-candidates were trained in sewing, embroidering, dancing, singing, playing musical instruments, manipulating puppets, reciting fairy tales and other similar activities; also, they learned the basics of Islam, literature and philosophy. And of course, they were given lessons in the art of erotic love. Every little detail in the process of learning the required skills was taken care of. There were several stages in mastering these skills the girls had to attain before they could take part in the final selection — from the adjemi-novice “the trainees”, if successful, moved on to jariye, shagird, gedikli and finally to usta. It was from the usta that the sultan’s mother, the valide sultan who was the supreme authority in the elaborately organized harem system with its disciplinary and administrative officers, made a very careful selection of those who would be offered to the sultan as possible candidates for sharing his bed. Once “promoted” to the harem, those with the status of a wife were entitled to separate rooms and servants. The haseki, those lucky ones who gave the sultan sons, were given a privilege of wearing resplendent clothes trimmed with precious furs, of publicly kissing the sultan’s hand, of living in a separate set of rooms. The one who was the first to give birth to a son was promoted to the position of the senior wife and was given the title bash-kadin. The life in the seclusion of the seraglio was far from being a serene and relaxed existence: often it was an arena in which rival factions fought for ascendancy at the court; harem intrigues frequently had wide-ranging repercussions, including, in some cases, the downfall of dynasties. Even in simple every-day matters you had to watch your every step very carefully. If, for example, a harem wife who happened to be walking from one part of the seraglio to another, heard the clatter of the sultan’s silver-studded shoes, she would have to hide away quickly lest she be spotted by the approaching sultan — any unsanctioned meeting with the sultan was considered to be a gross violation of the harem rules and offense to the sultan. Offenses, or violations of the harem hierarchy were punished severely, often by death.
    In view of all this it is highly unlikely that the events that led to Roxolana becoming the sultan’s beloved wife, mother of his children, friend and advisor for forty years until she died, developed along the lines suggested by pulp fiction stories and TV soap operas: the 26-year old sultan who has just ascended the throne, meets a 15-year old captive from a distant land, falls in love with her at first sight and elevates her to the position of a chief advisor and of a favourite sexual partner. We know but a few details of Roxolana’s rise to her high position at Suleyman’s court. What we know for sure is that Roxolana was indeed the sultan’s most beloved wife and that she played a significant role in some of the political decisions taken by the sultan. The rest is open to conjecture and embroidery. Novelists and film writers are free to indulge in all sorts of romantic inventions.

    Some facts
    “The current wife of the Turkish sultan who loves her dearly is a woman who was captured somewhere in our lands,” wrote the same Mykhailo Lytvyn whom we have mentioned earlier. Ottoman sultans did marry foreigners before but those women were mostly from distinguished families or daughters of foreign rulers. Suleyman did an unprecedented thing — he officially married a captive Slavic girl in full accordance with the Muslim religious law. According to the Polish author Count Stanislaw Rzuewski, Roxolana hailed from the town of Rohatyn in Western Ukraine (now in Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast). She was born into the family of a priest and at baptism was given the name of Anastasiya (other sources call her Oleksandra). In the sultan’s harem she was called Hurrem sultan, or “the joyful sultana.” In history she has remained known as Roxolana, that is a girl from Roxolania, the medieval Latin name for Rus-Ukraine (a man from Roxolania was Roxolanus).
    Our contemporary, Oleksiy Pyvovarenko, head of the Lviv Club of Socionics (Socionics a relatively young and dynamically developing branch of psychology with roots in Jung’s theory of psychological types, Freud’s theory of conscious and subconscious and Kepinski’s theory of information metabolism — tr.), in his article devoted to the Socionics portrait of the couple Suleyman-Roxolana, says that they were “duals,” that is two persons who ideally matched each other in character. “At last we shall unite in souls, in thoughts, in imagination, in will, in heart, in everything that I have left of mine in you, and have taken of you with me, o my only love!” writes Suleyman in one of his letters to Roxolana. “My lord, Your absence has kindled a fire in me that cannot be put out. Take pity of my suffering soul and write a letter to me as soon as You can so that I could find at least some consolation in it. My lord, I hope that when You read these words, Your wish to write to us will be fortified and You will express all Your longing to see us again. When I read Your letter, Your son Mahmad and Your daughter Migrimag were close by my side and tears were rolling down their to the sultan.
    Roxolana had found herself in Suleyman’s harem before he ascended the throne in 1520. One of the legends about her says that the young girl Anastasiya was captured by the Tartars on the day of her wedding. Roxolana evidently did not have an appearance of a typical harem beauty: no dark burning eyes like black olives, no big sensuous lips, no ample, zaftig, curvaceous and voluptuous figure. “Giovane ma non bella” — “young but not beautiful,” a Venetian ambassador was told in 1526, but “graceful and short of stature.” Roxolana’s main asset was her mind which was remarked upon by all the contemporaries who wrote about her. She was able both to entertain the sultan with clever and witty talk and give a good and sound advice. In 1533 when Roxolana was already fifty, the Venetian ambassador Navagero wrote: “His Majesty the Sultan loves Roxolana so much that never has in the Ottoman dynasty been a woman who would enjoy a greater respect. They say that she has a very nice and modest appearance, and that she knows the nature of the great ruler very well.” In 1554, another Italian, Dominico Trevisano wrote from the Ottoman capital: “His Majesty the Sultan loves her [Roxolana] so much that, as they say, he has refused to be with any other woman but her; none of his predecessors had ever done that and such a thing is unheard of among the Turks who have a custom of sleeping with many wives.”

    Attitudes
    Hurrem sultan was widely believed to be a witch who had put a spell on the sultan with voodoo incantations and potions. In 1554, the Austrian ambassador Busbek wrote that he was informed that there were women in the capital who supplied Hurrem sultan with bones from the skulls of hyenas which were believed to be a very strong aphrodisiac. “But none of them,” he adds, “agreed to sell these bones to me saying they were meant exclusively for Hurrem sultan who, they said, made the sultan continuously attached to her by making love potions and other magic means.” It was a wide-spread popular belief that Suleyman was so obedient to his wife in everything because of the magic spell that she put on him. It was she, people said, who was behind the sultan’s decisions to have Ibrahim, his closest friend and vizier, and Mustafa, his first-born son from one of his wives and heir to the throne, put to death. It was after Mustafa’s death that Selim, Roxolana’s son, became the heir apparent. Unfortunately, Selim did not inherit much either from father or his mother. He was notorious for his excessive drinking and cruelty which, even by the then Muslim standards, was unwarranted and extreme. Later, he was called by historians Selim II the Drunk.
    The Ukrainian captives who were sold into Turkish households and, all the more so, who were taken into harems, had to undergo conversion into Islam. Ottoman historians mention that Roxolana showed a great Muslim zeal; she even had a mosque built in Istanbul. Ironically, the money for the mosque were accumulated from the fees that the Christian pilgrims had to pay for visiting the holy sites in Jerusalem. These fees were not imposed either by Roxolana or Suleyman — they had been charged long before Suleyman came to power. Incidentally, Suleyman imposed certain fees on the mosques as well, whenever he needed extra money.

    Death and memory
    Roxolana died in 1558 and Suleyman in 1566. He had Roxolana’s remains buried in a resplendent tomb in the mosque he built, Suleymaniye, one of the great architectural landmarks of the Ottoman Empire. The later years of Suleyman were troubled by conflict between his sons, the princes Selim and Bayezid over the succession to the throne, which ended with the defeat and execution of Bayezid. Suleyman himself died while besieging the fortress of Szigetvar in Hungary.
    The German historian Hammer wrote in his History of the Ottoman Empire, published in 1834: “[In this mosque] there is a tomb of a Rusynka [Slavic woman from Ukraine] who thanks to her charm and talent managed to rise from the base position of a slave to the lofty level of a legal royal wife; later, when her beauty had long faded, she became the sultan’s closest and only friend who controlled him thanks to her wit and will. The responsibility for the killing of two viziers and for the filicide when Suleyman ordered the execution of his son Mustafa is laid at her feet… This Rusynka ruled her husband, the greatest of Ottoman monarchs, in a way similar to that in which he ruled his dominions…”
    The beauty of Ukrainian women must have been so magnetic (or maybe the memory of Roxolana’s powerful personality exercised a strong influence on later Ottoman rulers) that in the seventeenth century two more sultans, Suleyman II and Ibrahim I, were married to Ukrainian women. One of them, Hatidje Turhan Sultan, was the mother of the Sultan Mehmed IV; she is particularly remembered for building the Mosque Yeni Jami. But none of them attained the fame of Roxolana. It is difficult today to separate myth and truth, inventions and calumnies, hearsay and reliable historical evidence, and to say whether in captivity she really remained a Ukrainian patriot who did a lot to protect the Ukrainian lands from the Turkish onslaught and help the Christians in the Muslim lands, or whether she was an adventuress who used the situation she found herself in to her advantage and managed through cunning and beguiling to maneuver herself and her son into positions of power, or she just happened to be lucky. Probably there was a bit of everything in her fate. What remains certain is that she was a woman whom one of the great Ottoman rulers under whom the Ottoman Empire stretched from Baghdad to the Gibraltar and from the Nile to the Danube, loved dearly.
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    Се сметало дека Махидевран имала три деца: Принцот Мустафа, Принцот Ахмед и Разије Султан.
    Не знам колку е точно, ама најдов една слика на која што е Разије Султан:
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    Şah Sultan:
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    Султанија Шах или Шахубан (тур. Şah Sultan; Şahuban Sultan) (1509, Маниса — 1572, Истанбул) била је султанија, принцеза Османског царства, кћерка султана Селима I и рођена сестра султана Сулејмана I.
    Живот
    Шах је рођена 1509. у Маниси, где је провела своје детињство. Била је једна од три кћери Селима I и његове супруге султаније Ајше Хафсе, поред султанија Хатиџе, Бејхан и Фатме.
    После смрти свога оца, и доласка њеног брата Сулејмана на престо, године 1523. удата је за Лутфи-пашу, државника који је касније, 1539. постао велики везир. Из овог брака, Шах је имала две кћерке. 1541. се развела од свог супруга који је након развода ослобођен свих својих политичких позиција. Разлог овог развода је било управо физичко злостављање Шах од стране њеног супруга. Након тога је и Шах наредила слугама да пребију Лутфи-пашу и пожалила се свом брату, Султану Сулејману и затражила развод. Због тога је и Лутфи-паша скинут са дотадашње позиције великог везира.
    За собом је оставила и задужбину, џамију Шах султаније која је саграђена 1556. Године.
    Шах је преминула 1572. у престоници, Истанбулу.
    Гроб
    Гроб тј. мезар Шах султаније је пронађен након више од 400 година, 16. марта 2013. године приликом рестаурације гроба њене мајке Султаније Ајше Хафсе. Археолози су изјавили да су они из књига знали да је мезар Шах султаније близу мезара њене мајке јер је она умрла 28 година након ње, али ипак нису могли да одреде тачну локацију. Након завршетка обе рестаурације до краја 2013. људи ће моћи посетити гробове обе султаније

    Гробот најден, по 400 години:
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    Шах Султан заедно со Луфти Паша имала две ќерки.
    Есмехан Султан:
    Есмехан Бахарназ султанија (тур. Esmehan Baharnaz Sultan) је била ћерка султаније Шах и великог везира Лутфи-паше и сестра Неслихан султаније.

    Биографија
    Рођена је негде око 1522, у Истанбулу а умрла око 1556, такође у Истанбулу. Око 1541, се удала за принца Мехмета, сина отоманског султана Сулејмана I и Хурем султаније, познатије као Рокселане. С њим је имала ћерку Хумашах султанију.

    Неслихан Султан:
    Неслихан султанија је била ћерка Шах Султаније и великог везира Лутфи-паше, и сестра Есмахан султаније. Рођена је највероватније у Истанбулу.
    Fatma Sultan:
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    Фатма (тур. Fatma Sultan; 1500, Трабзон — 1570, Истанбул) била је султанија Османског царства и ћерка султана Селима I и његове супруге Хафсе Хатун. Њен брат је био султан Сулејман. Била је позната под надимком: Султанија среће и забаве (тур. neşenin ve eğlencenin sultanı), јер како се причало није скидала осмех са лица, а волела је и често да приређује забаве. Њен први муж био је Мустафа-паша, али се од њега развела, због честих свађа. После тога се удала за Кара Ахмед-пашу (кара-црн), који је 1553. постао велики везир Османског царства. Међутим на његово место је убрзо дошао Дамат Рустем-паша Опуковић, који је и пре њега био велики везир већ 9 година. Многи сматрају да је као и своје сестре - Хатиџе султанија, Шах Султанија и Бејхан султанија имала веома лош однос са Хурем султанијом.
    Beyhan Sultan:
    Бејхан (тур. Beyhan Sultan; Истанбул 1497 — 1559, Истанбул) била је султанија Османског царства и ћерка султана Селима I и његове супругеХафсе Хатун, која је била ћерка татарског кана с Кримa, Менгли Гираја. Њене сестре су биле султанија Хатиџе, Фатма Султанија и султанија Шаха њен брат султан Сулејман I. Њен супруг је био Ферхат-паша. Бејхан је умрла 1559.
    Nurbanu Sultan:
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    About
    The product of an illegitimate union between two noble Venetian families, Nurbanu Sultan, née Cecelia Venier-Baffo, was the concubine and later wife of Selim II and the mother of Murad III.
    Captured in 1537 at the age of twelve, Nurbanu entered the Ottoman harem and became Selim’s choice to bear his children. Accordingly, she provided him with three daughters and his heir, Murad. She had been the head of his princely harem, and when he became sultan, she became head of the imperial harem. Even after Selim began to take other concubines, she persisted as a favorite for her beauty and intelligence. As mother of the heir-apparent, she acted as an advisor to her husband.
    After Selim’s death in 1574, Nurbanu concealed Selim’s body in an icebox to cloak his death until Murad could return from where he was posted as governor. Once he returned, Nurbanu, along with the grand vizier, served as Murad’s chief advisors.
    As the first of a series of women during an era called the “Sultanate of Women,” Nurbanu corresponded with Catherine de Medici, then regent of France, and fostered a relationship between the two courts.
    Nurbanu commissioned the architect Mimar Sinan to build the Atik Valide Mosque in Istanbul.
    Her politics, and thus the politics of her son, were so pro-Venetian that it caused bad blood between the Empire and the Republic of Genoa. It is suspected that her death in 1583 was the work of a Genoese agent.
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    Death in the Topkapı Harem
    Dec. 7, 1583. The valide sultan (queen mother) was suddenly taken ill and despite every effort, she couldn’t be saved. Nurbanu Sultan was dead. Rumors spread of poison, a rival in the imperial harem and a conspiracy by a foreign power.
    Nurbanu Sultan was nearly 60 years old when she died – a very advanced age given the state of medicine available in the 16th century Ottoman Empire. Where she came from and when are not known for sure. The main theory claims that she was born as the illegitimate daughter of a doge of Venice’s brother and was sent to Istanbul as a child to be sold. Some claim she was of Jewish origin, while another source suggests that it was originally Sokollu Mehmed Pasa, the famed grand vizier of the time, who presented her to the imperial harem. Be that as it may, her beauty and intelligence attracted the attention of the famous Hürrem Sultan, the wife of Kanuni Sultan Süleyman, and she had her groomed to be the concubine and wife of her own son, who became Sultan Selim II.
    Whether she was Venetian and Catholic or Jewish, Nurbanu would have converted to Islam early on. Growing up in the harem at Topkapı, she would have been taught Turkish in addition to Muslim beliefs and traditions. Assuming she was Venetian, she probably had opportunities to speak her native language with other Italian women in the harem. Then there were music, dance and sewing and embroidery lessons. Her behavior and deportment would have been schooled so that she would be worthy of being the heir to the throne’s principal woman. And throughout her formative years, she would have had Hürrem Sultan’s example before her. But Hürrem Sultan died in 1558, eight years before Selim II would inherit the throne. For those eight years, Nurbanu was in limbo. She was unable to take over the role of valide sultan because Kanuni Sultan Süleyman was still alive and how she got along with his strong-willed daughter, Mihrimah Sultan, who happened to be Sokollu Mehmed Pasa’s wife, is unknown. Perhaps she contented herself with raising her children – a boy and two girls – during those eight years.
    First woman who ruled Ottoman Empire
    Nurbanu is considered the first of the women who ruled the Ottoman Empire from behind the scenes, either because their sultan husbands were weak or their sons became sultans when still too young to rule. This period became known as the “Sultanate of Women” and Nurbanu was the first woman to hold the powerful position of valide sultan. In the case of Nurbanu, her husband, Selim II, was weak and apparently relied on the people around him, including his mother and Grand Vizier Sokollu Mehmed Pasa, for advice.
    One aspect of Ottoman government is not well attested but concerns the meetings of the viziers or, as it was called, the divan. History books always recount how the grand vizier or his representative would preside over meetings on the palace grounds in the building known as the Kubbealtı. The sultan would monitor the meetings from a grated window above the room in which the men would meet if he didn’t care to join them in their deliberations. However, it seems that the viziers would on occasion meet elsewhere so that they could speak more freely. In the first part of the 18th century, they met in a palace belonging to the valide sultan in Eyup to discuss the prospects of war against Venice, for example, and it is entirely possible that the divan met informally at either the palace belonging to Mihrimah Sultan or to Nurbanu.
    The late Ottoman historian Stanford Shaw believed that Nurbanu was Jewish rather than Venetian. He describes her as belonging to the “war” group led by Sokullu Mehmed Pasa who was being amply funded by Jewish bankers. The goal was to wrest Cyprus from Venetian control and stamp out pirates that were using the island as a base to attack shipping in the eastern Mediterranean. Sultan Selim II’s wife, Safiye Sultan, who is thought to have been Venetian, seems to have been unable to counter Sokullu and Nurbanu’s influence in this matter.
    Then suddenly in 1574, Selim II died and the empire and new sultan, Murat III, had two valide sultans, Nurbanu and Safiye – the former anti-Venetian and the latter pro-Venetian – and Grand Vizier Sokullu Mehmed Pasa. With the concurrence of the sultan, Safiye slowly eliminated Sokullu’s supporters in high places and then the grand vizier was assassinated in 1579. What is interesting is that Nurbanu was apparently able to stay on at Topkapı Palace until her death in 1583 in spite of the fact that the Old Palace at Beyazit was still inhabitable. At least the Old Palace was still functioning in 1558 because Hürrem Sultan was moved there when it became obvious that she was dying.
    Topkapı Palace maintained a two-story hospital for the harem, which was some distance from the harem itself in order to prevent disease from spreading. It also had a room where the body would be bathed and placed in a coffin behind a lattice screen, where people would come to pay their last respects before it would be taken away for burial.
    Well-respected sultan
    She may have been living in her own palace – as Edhem Eldem suggests in his book, Death in Istanbul – which was near Topkapı Palace, judging by the high walls seen in the background of the only miniature that exists.* Nurhan Atasoy, however, believes that the scene, which shows the coffin containing the body of Nurbanu, portrays the Toplu Gate at Topkapı Palace. Heading the cortege is Sultan Murat III. Behind the coffin are the black eunuchs. The mourners, dressed in green, are waiting outside the two gates with their hands upraised in prayer. From the palace, the procession went to Fatih Mosque, where the funeral prayers were said and then taken to Aya Sophia, where her coffin was placed in the türbe (mausoleum) of Sultan Selim II, her son.
    Despite Nurbanu’s reputation for meddling in politics, the valide sultan was well-respected for the many religious foundations she had built and most importantly for the large complex in Üsküdar, the Valide-i Atik Mosque.
    *The miniature in the Şehinşahname was painted by an artist named Seyyid Lokman, who is famous for the miniatures he created between 1569 and 1595. He also painted a miniature that shows the red wagon containing the coffin of Kanuni Sultan Süleyman being transported back to Istanbul from Szigetvar (in today’s southern Hungary), where he died.
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    Нурбану Султан или Нур-Бану Султан (околу 1525 - 7 декември 1583) била венецијанска благородничка, сопруга на османлискиот султан Селим II, како и мајка односно Валиде султан на Мурат III. Во периодот од 1574 до 1583 година делувала како ко-регент во империјата.
    Според венецијански извори, Сесилија или Оливија како што се викала Нурбану пред да го прими исламот, била ќерка на Николо Вениер кој бил владетел на островот Парос и внука на венецијанскиот дужд Себастијано Вениер. Таа била заробена кога Османлиите го освоиле Парос во 1537 година. По ова таа била однесена во султанскиот харем на Селим II во Истанбул. Во харемот таа станала омилена на осланлискиот султан Селим, кој во 1566 година застанал на престолот. Во 1546 година го родила идниот султан Мурат III. Кога Селим II починал во 1574 година, таа го сокрила неговото тело во мраз додека нејзиниот син Мурат да престигне од Маниса до Истанбул.
    По прогласувањето на Мурат за нов султан, таа станала Валиде султан и започнала да ја управува империјата заедно со големиот везир Мехмет Паша Соколовиќ. Мурат III со сигурност ги признал лидерските способности на неговата мајка. Всушност, тој се потпирал на неговата мајка во текот на неговото владеење барајќи совет при земање на секоја одлука.
    Нурбану Султан била активна во дипломатската политика на земјата. Таа имала контакти со сопругата на францускиот крал Хенри III, Катерина Медичи. Преку воспоставување на кореспонденција, таа помогнала да се одржат добрите односи меѓу двете земји. Во прилог на Фрнација, Нурбану исто така имала и дипломатски односи со Венеција. Можеби најзначајниот придонес на Нурбану за Венеција, земјата од каде потекнувала, била објавената инвазија на адмиралот Килич Али Паша врз островот Крит кој бил под венецијанска управа. Бидејќи не сакала да ги наруши односите со Венеција таа испратила порака до адмиралот како предупредување дела инвазијата не треба да се изврши и дека овој поход ќе биде штетен за султанот. По ова, следувало и повлекување на планот на адмиралот.
    Нурбану Султан била вклучена и во културниот живот на земјата. Таа била одговорна за изградбата на Атик Валиде џамија.
    Се смета дека Нурбану Султан и Сафије Султан се роднини, бидејќи и на двете презимето им е Бафо.
    Mihrimah Sultan:
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    Princeza Mihrimah (21. mart 1522 — 25. januar 1578) je bila ćerka osmanskog sultana Sulejmana I i njegove supruge Hurem sultanije. Rođena je u Istanbulu. Dobila je ime po suncu i mesecu.
    Putovala je sa svojim ocem širom Osmanlijskog carstva. Kada je imala 17 godina u Istanbulu 26. novembra je udata za tadašnjeg trećeg vezira Osmanlijskog carstva Rustem pašu (poreklom iz Dalmacije), koji je 1544. godine postao veliki vezir.
    Posle smrti njene majke ona je za vreme vladavine svog brata Selima II bila valide sultanija („Velika majka“).

    Ајше Хумашах (1541-1594) била је кћер Султаније Михримах и Рустем паше. Удавала се три пута и имала је четворо деце.
    Михримах имала една ќерка по име Ајше Хумашах и се смета дека ова на сликите е таа:
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    Fülane Hatun:
    Фулани Хатун (тур. Fülane Hatun; Истанбул, 1496 — Истанбул, 1550) била је једна од миљеница султана Сулејмана I.
    Рођена је 1496, вероватно у Истанбулу. Године 1512. је родила Сулејману сина Mахмуда, који је умро са девет година. Фулани је умрла 1550, вероватно у Истанбулу.
    Gülfem Hatun:
    Гулфем Хатун (тур. Gülfem Hatun; Пољска (вероватно), 1497 — Истанбул, 1562) била је прва супруга султана Сулејмана I. Гулфем је рођена 1497. године. Она је била пореклом из Пољске и вероватно је била отета од родне земље, као и султаније Махидевран и Хурем. Постала је султанија и супруга Сулејмана I, али након доласка робиње Махидевран Гулбахар, Гулфем је изгубила статус Сулејманове супруге. Године 1521. Сулејману је родила сина принца Мурада, којег је изгубила при рођењу. Умрла је 1562. године у Истанбулу, а сахрањена је у џамији Гулфем Хатун.
    Се надевам ве интересираше, ако сакате уште нешто, кажете ќе најдам информации. :)
     
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    Сликата кај Шах Султан, е всушност Ајше Хафса Валиде Султан - мајката на Султан Сулејман.
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    Инаку прочитав дека Нурбану Султан, својата најстара ќерка Есмехан Султан ја омажила за везирот Мехмед Паша Соколович, кој бил голем везир за време на владеењето на Селим II.. И со тоа исто како и Хурем Султан, Нурбану Султан во сојуз со својот зет Мехмед Паша ја водела империјата :D
     
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    Исрено не знам во што да верувам зошто на Гугл кога ќе откуцаш Sah Sultan и Ayşe Hafsa Sultan излагаат истите слики. :?: Инаку најдов уште еден интересен текст за тоа какви биле харемите и какви се во серијава. На српски е се надевам ќе го разберете сите :) . Поздрав! :hug:
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    Најдов некои слики од актерите позади камерите :inlove:

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    Џирхангир и Бајзит преубави, а и Нурбану :inlove: :inlove:
     
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    Џихангиииир!Леле колку е преубав...ааа Селим и ти си тука... :$
     
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    Сакав да прашам, ќе има со среда или не, бидејќи е Нова година? :?:
    Инаку Нурбану и Михримах се ептен убави, поготово Нурбану!! :inlove:
     
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    Што бидна со темава, со серијата општо? :)
     
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    па мислам дека се снимени до 117 се снима уште хуем е онаа старата вахиде ли како се викаше, се појавила изгледа нова миленичка на султанот нели оваа хурем е стара веќе и така
    иначе на канал 5 се стигнати до смртта на џатиџе
     
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    се тера работата....’’убава е’’
    ;)